Speaking of substitutions and of Kate, maybe he's been fooled about who is who--so he might not be wrong about the rules, but he might be wrong about who has really broken them. I've also been wondering if the rules really apply since they seem to be changing--Ben's comment to Widmore than he "broke the rules."
If Jacob didn't want MIB to have any kind of chance of escape ... why bring anybody to the island at all ... I know he wants to prove the good in people to MIB .. but what makes that worth the risk of him escaping ? If he is able to prove that point, and it is accepted by MIB, what would it change?
perhaps MIB wouldnt want to wipe out humanity by leaving if he sees that humanity can be good. i think the allegory is to the book of job
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perhaps MIB wouldnt want to wipe out humanity by leaving if he sees that humanity can be good. i think the allegory is to the book of job
Job is subjected to torturous ailments. Satan had presented to God that a man could be so pained (be it physical or mental anguish) that he would turn his back and curse his God. His only reason for continuing to serve is because he is protected. Remove the protection to allow all he has to be taken away including his health. A test of loyalty.
MiB appears to have no desire for there to be any “good “ in humanity. So if it is proven to him that it can be manifested in anyone, this will only anger him more giving him reason to do all that he can to extinguish humanity if it is within his power to do so. His mantra seems to be “there shall be no good”. This is the battle between good and evil and I as the ultimate in evil will do all in my power to prevail. There cannot be a tie, there has to be a winner and loser in this battle.
On a side note. IMHO. Jacob and MiB are brothers. At one time their mother had to make a decision. Her decision was disagreeable to MiB, hence he sees her as the “crazy” mom. Think of “The Bad Seed”. Two sons hanging from a cliff and she can save only one of them. Now with his “crazy mom” comment to Claire, could it be that Claire is his crazy mom. With all the time jumping, has Aaron returned to the island and because he was raised by another, became a dark figure and is indeed our MiB? Loop dude, loop. Aaron - the beginning and end of the loop. IDK just rambling.
Maybe, Kate was crossed off the Cave list because it was found out she wasn't bad enough.
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Listening to a bunch of music while working this morning, I thought I would swing by and share because this one reminded me of the show (don't they all?).
Two things I want to bring up about it. First, and most important in my opinion, is this:
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This idea that the Island is a place where one can be healed, given a second chance, a hospital of sorts, is a very Jacobian perspective, whereas the idea that the Island is a prison, which many characters have held, including even Jack, is a very Not!Lockian perspective. The desperation to leave the Island, to escape it, to "be free," has been the driving force of the majority of characters over the entire course of the series, and it's not surprising that it extends back into the ancient history of the Island. This is the real dichotomy -- it has nothing to do with a tension between science and faith, that was just a slight diversion to our true conflict. The real struggle is between understanding the Island as a paradise, as home, a place of miracles and seeing the Island only as a trap, a prison, a Hell. And if the Island is merely a Hell, or prison perhaps it should be destroyed, submerged, lost at the bottom of the sea. However, if the Island is a place of hope and healing, if it is a spiritual "hospital" so to speak, it could be a terrible loss if it were to be destroyed, lost forever.
Hospital or prison? Heaven or Hell? Timeline A or Timeline B? It's all a matter of perspective...
I think she is dead on about this. It is all a matter of perspective concernin' the Island.
Now, for the second thing:
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Because something reoccurred to me while watching this episode, something that I had given a great deal of thought to back in the early seasons, but that had, in the wake of TIME TRAVEL! and ALTERNATE TIMELINES! and LEAVING THE ISLAND! and JACOB IS THIS DUDE OVER HERE! and LOCKE IS NOT!LOCKE! somewhat slipped my mind. But back in seasons two and three, I was intrigued by the fact that the Lost universe appeared to be mostly populated by people who worked in the same professions: doctors, priests, criminals and cops. Obviously, there are a number other jobs: fry cook, musician, artist, etc., etc. But time and time again, we have returned to these four archetypes: doctors, priests, criminals/con men and cops (with a few diversions into the realm of scientists and soldiers; although you could argue that scientists could be lumped in with doctors, especially when we're talking about research doctors like Juliet; and soldiers could be a subset of cops, especially when they are taking charge of prisoners of war, like Sam Austen...).
In the next few paragraphs after the above she lists the people fall into the categories of Doctor, Priest, Criminals & Con men and Cops (and Soldiers). There are several people who appear in more than one of those categories - for example James and Mr. Eko. But, Desmond is the only one who is in all four categories. He is, on the one hand, the Healer (both of the body and the spirit) and, on the other hand) the man mixed up in both anti-authoritarianism and authoritarianism. I just thought that was interestin'.
Maybe the point is that the Island isn't purely good or purely bad, but it can be used for good or bad purposes. The same can be said of any scientific advancement (or if you want to look at it from the side of faith, any spiritual belief or passion can be abused).
Last night I was looking for an icon of Ana Lucia and Eko together, and not finding one, I made one for myself. Then I just started going through screen caps making other icons. Let's just say that not only the of archetypes of the characters on the show are eerie, but so are specific tableaus and situations. I paused to see Jack hanging from the side of a cliff with Locke reaching down for him...so familiar to a scene we saw this season. Another scene that really stood out to me was Boone cradling Shannon's face in Hearts and Minds. Another scene that happens over and over again are two people sitting side by side and staring out at the ocean--usually begins with one person sitting there and another arriving.
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