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Old 03-11-2010, 10:23 AM   #11
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

It's a pity that the Confederate Battle Flag / Confederate Naval Jack has become such a contraversial symbol; when I was growing up it represented rebellion, not racism.

There's also a relatively minor sucessionist movement in the Pacific NW, I believe.

Many countries have sucessionist movements - here in Brazil the Gauchos of Rio Grande do Sul have had an on-again, off-again movement; there's also one in the state of São Paulo.
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:01 PM   #12
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

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It's a pity that the Confederate Battle Flag / Confederate Naval Jack has become such a contraversial symbol; when I was growing up it represented rebellion, not racism.
Yeah. For most, though, it still is about that - and about pride in your home and family. Sadly, though, there always has to be an element that tries to corrupt things - just like that element has tried to corrupt the Christian Cross and the Stars and Stripes.

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There's also a relatively minor sucessionist movement in the Pacific NW, I believe.
Yep, it's called Cascadia.

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Many countries have sucessionist movements - here in Brazil the Gauchos of Rio Grande do Sul have had an on-again, off-again movement; there's also one in the state of São Paulo.
I didn't know that about the Gauchos. Though, I have to say I'm not surprised about São Paulo bein' that the Confederados are situated near there

One thing I didn't mention in my last post was that, aside from independence and secession, one could also make the claim that there's somethin' there for forced union in regard to Rhode Island and the Confederacy.

Also, LiL made a great point in the back pack thread:

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That's very interesting info regarding the secessionist tendencies of the various states/entities represented on Alex's backpack. Ties in nicely with Flocke's group "breaking away" from the control of the Island.
Great idea, LiL! I'm an idiot. I didn't even see that *L*. I'm gonna quote this in the queST thread
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ETA: Forgot to add this. There are actually several secessionist movements out there.

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Old 03-11-2010, 12:12 PM   #13
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

love what you've done with the place CIN,, awesome and thank you..
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:39 PM   #14
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

Nice job, Cinamin, and I enjoyed reading all the comments at the beginning.

After watching "Dr. Linus" again, I am so thrilled by the themes of redemption, forgiveness, compassion, and also the excellent writing and acting. The beach camp felt like an old friend to me. It is amazing that an episode with so much darkness could be so light-filled and uplifting. If the season ended right now, I think I've already experienced far more than my share of goodness. Every episode is a wonder and a delight to me.

Is anyone else following Jorge's Geronimo Jack's Beard podcasts? Jorge and Beth have recorded a podcast after receiving each script, and then they add to it and release it after the episode has aired. No spoilers.

Jorge had not worked with Yunjin for a long time, so the beach reunion was flavored with reality for him. Also, he added a line to the script. When he asked Richard if he was a cyborg, Richard said no, then Hurley asked, "Vampire?" That word was not in the script but he thought it would be cool to add it and see if it was left in. Richard's reaction to it was fun, too, because he did not know it was coming.

The podcasts are long, but interesting.

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Old 03-11-2010, 12:39 PM   #15
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

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Oh, look here's MOC in her new corset and Dev has her silver buckle boots on.

Must be time to christen the voyage.
I didn't know the rum made it too...

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By the way...it's World Kidney Day. To all those people who suffer through dialysis or are waiting for transplants, my prayers are with you all.
A story for another time...

And a special shout out to Locke's kidney. Give it back, yo!

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Ya Raven Pyrates

The sea has secrets
And my corset is the best kept secret of them all...

Cascadia is an interesting thing. Seems people get divided by area code in the NW. And there seems to be an odd mentality of area code segregation. Strange days indeed.

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Old 03-11-2010, 12:58 PM   #16
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

Secret of the Sea...

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You claim to know the secret of a kiss and a hug
And the secret of the grass and of the trees
And if you can tell the secret of a warm friends hand
Then we all would feel the secrets of the sea
- Woody Guthrie
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:24 PM   #17
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Cascadia is an interesting thing. Seems people get divided by area code in the NW. And there seems to be an odd mentality of area code segregation. Strange days indeed.
I have the "206ness" (pronounced two-oh-sickness) as the Blue Scholars say.

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I bid you to try, to test I & I
Been destined to fly But I’m restin tonight
And one bright morning I will take flight
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It’s said talk is cheap, but war is expensive
I speak cuz it’s free and these words are my weapons
Don’t think for a second I will not question US foreign policy, imperial aggression inventing war for the quenching of the thirst for the oil
Cuz money don’t trickle down to workers who toil, you see
Blood trickle down from the wounds of the soil
-- Blue Scholars, Blink


Catching a fallen star
On another note, Jacob and the MiB may be two sides of the same coin. Have we talked about Hesperus is Phosphorus? The morning star and the evening star are likened to sense and reference, two different aspects of meaning. It's another chicken and egg sort of puzzle.

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if a and b are names of the same object, then the identity statement a = b must mean the same as a = a. Yet clearly the first can convey information in a way that the second cannot; that Samuel Clemens is Samuel Clemens is just trivial, but that Samuel Clemens is Mark Twain is interesting.
Angels (using whatever names they choose) may influence our choices, but the choices are still ours. It's worthwhile to consider both sense and reference when you're making decisions. The seen and the unseen.

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:33 PM   #18
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

one of my favorite opening scenes with LINUS (btw our new border collie mix puppy is named LINUS... i wish i could take credit, but it's the name that came with him as the family that had adopted them as part of a shelter named one after each Peanuts character... i lobbied hard to change the name to HURLEY or HUGO, but was out-voted by both sets of twins, LOL)

anyway, i digress...

as BEN was writing ELBA on the chalkboard, it took me back to one of my all-time favorites songs: Cynthia Mask by Robyn Hitchcock (of course, laced with interesting ties to our opera)...

the album it's on is titled EYE with a great big eye on the cover...

the lyrics are here and basically deal with napolean and chamberlain and these
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i know how she feels
but can't say a word because
nothing is real in here
not even her
disguise yourself
as you or another
a brick or a spider

in hunger and silence
the yawning cross
the hill full of pebbles
inside you forever
inside you is all
essentially it's a song that deals with the "idea that presenting a false front to the world eventually leads to ruin"... tread carefully MIB, Jacob... are you wearing a cynthia mask...
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disguise yourself
as you or another
a brick or a spider
or a smokey or a locke or a christian s.

also to note, Cynthia was his girlfriend at the time..

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:44 PM   #19
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

Ahoy Mateys!!! Yo Ho Ho and a bottle or rum!!!!

Great job on the intro Cin!
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Old 03-11-2010, 02:10 PM   #20
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Re: LOyal to the queST #17:...Lead Us Home

And it seems we are short a few of the crew. I'm going to have to send out a search party.





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