I thought it really was quite a fantastic episode. Maybe people that don't like the storytelling from a different perspective should think about the fact that the rest of the survivors haven't just been sitting around for 80days while this group of them discover all the secrets of the island. I like it when the other survivors get involved as well, as long as they don't overstay their welcome, and Pikki didn't. Also they died in a really creepy way that was interesting to watch.
having said that, I wasn't a huge fan of the diamond storyline, but I loved seeing the Losties reaction to it, so it all worked out well as a whole.
The other thing that brought my vote for the ep down a bit was that I didn't like the idea of Pikki finding The Pearl station before the Losties did, it just kind of took some of the intrigue out of when Locke and Eko found it. Also when Paulo wouldn't go up into the beachcraft, well it was a bit insulting to Boone, and I liked the waterfall to be reserved for a different couple...
So all in all, it was a great episode, but it could've done without all of the Pikki generated moment ruiners.
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Originally Posted by 4815Waiting for disaster16234
The other thing that brought my vote for the ep down a bit was that I didn't like the idea of Pikki finding The Flame station before the Losties did, it just kind of took some of the intrigue out of when Locke and Eko found it. Also when Paulo wouldn't go up into the beachcraft, well it was a bit insulting to Boone, and I liked the waterfall to be reserved for a different couple...
So all in all, it was a great episode, but it could've done without all of the Pikki generated moment ruiners.
Those moments may have been the "parody" moments some people were talking about. They also were key in illuminating the characters of the original Losties'. For example, the fact that Paulo didn't go up into the beechcraft helped us to understand Boone's heroic nature. The waterfall scene helped us to understand Kate and her willingness to risk her life and hairstyle to get into the bottom of things. The Pearl station scene? It just showed how "ordinary" people would react to something bizarre and fascinating: with lack of curiosity and disregard for the bigger picture of the island.
Yes, Kell. The hours of manpower and thousands of dollars of wages recreating the crash site on the beach and filming new shots there, the thousands of dollars in visual effects, the rehiring of Maggie Grace, Ian Somerhalder, William Mapother and Daniel Roebuck and the tens of thousands of dollars spent bringing them all back to Hawaii. The "Powers That Be" were NOT trying to make it seem like Nikki and Paulo were there all along.
I get that you absolutely love this revisionist storytelling and the demolition of the fourth wall, and that is actually great - it's better some people enjoy it since it seems that's the direction "TPTB" are going in - but not everyone has to buy into it. Just like some people pretend that the Star Wars prequels don't exist (Hayden Christiansen IS inside the Darth Vader suit!) and refuse to think that the cops in E.T. were crouched behind their policecars with walking-talkies cocked and ready to fire, some of us would prefer to block all things "Pikki" from our minds and get back to the show we started watching. A show in which soap opera actors turned diamond smugglers are not present on craphole island and the writers are trying hard enough to come up with innovative and emotionally effecting content for a world that is consistent and makes a viewer really believe in smoke monsters and disembodied whispers for an hour on Wednesday night. Not resort to "very special" episodes that throw away the rules of the Lost universe for... what? An hour of "noir"? If that's what they were attempting "jealous diamond smuggling lovers put into comas by pheromone secreting spiders and buried alive" is pretty crappy noir. Oh, I forgot. The Lost geniuses were TRYING to be crappy! Well, mission accomplished. I do hope all of the crap enthusiasts of the world are satisfied though, since I'd really like the old Lost back.
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Thanks Tiny! That was very well said and I completely concur. I was very disappointed in this episode especially after the hype that Damon and Carlton gave it.
I agree that Tiny's point is well said. And pretty much sums up the other view (the one I don't have), but I just look at the Pikki storyline as a well executed side-trip. Way back in season one, there were people complaining saying "There's more people on the island that survived the crash. How come we never see anyone but these 12 (or whatever the number was then)." So TPTB figured out a clever (at least clever to me) way to bring two of the background people forward. Yes, it would have been nice if they had cast the roles way back when, and we all had a chance to at least see them during seasons 1 and 2, but paid actors on a television show don't work that way. So we get the "revisonist" film making. And I think it paid off. But, as much as I liked it, as I watched it I knew there were going to be a bunch of people that wouldn't like it. And I'm not being critical at all of that view. I get where you are coming from Tiny (and everyone else that thought it was a huge waste of time and resources in a show that should be giving answers instead of creating new dead-end characters). I just liked it. Seemed like a very well thought out and executed diversion. I liked the last scene in Expose about as much as the scene when we saw the numbers on the "hatch" back in season 1. The payoff was that big (to me).
Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?
--Douglas Adams (1952-2001)
"Expose": I gave it a 10. That's the difference between you and me.
Could we have an additional poll that asks how you would rate the episode after a second viewing? I originally gave it a 7, but now that I have had a chance to review some of the really well done double meanings and parallels, I would give it a 9. Based on some of the other threads, it seems that there are a lot of people who are finding hidden gems (buried diamonds?) in the dialogue.
Filler.
Everybody got their wish though, I suppose.
Better to have never created Paulo & Nikki and given more screen presence to the Lostie regular cast, IMO.
10! I gave it a 10 just cause Sawyer had his shirt off lol, and Desmond was there also.
It was a really good episode. Kinda creepy and very interesting at the same time I loved it.
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It should have been titled 'Lost: Alternate Reality Episode'. BTW, I just gotta say it. (Visual of exhausted mother needed here...she is jumping and clapping while saying Thank you God!! Thank you so much...please don't make them dig themselves out of their graves.
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Thank you God!! Thank you so much...please don't make them dig themselves out of their graves. 
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